Comments on: Google, Alexa and Technorati Chomp My Bit http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/ Tips on blogging, design and the IT industry. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:21:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Web Designer Group http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-1791 Web Designer Group Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:27:08 +0000 http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/27/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/#comment-1791 I agree to you. I think how google come to know that some one site is selling links and punish that one. On the blogging sites, its true we work as SEO for some sites, a lot of valued material is available. Why google plenty them? As google says, internet for human. we are humans and we need money then why not internet for money? I agree to you. I think how google come to know that some one site is selling links and punish that one. On the blogging sites, its true we work as SEO for some sites, a lot of valued material is available. Why google plenty them?
As google says, internet for human. we are humans and we need money then why not internet for money?

]]> By: Goggle-eyed in Guanzhou http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-778 Goggle-eyed in Guanzhou Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:00:32 +0000 http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/27/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/#comment-778 You Vill Conform!!!! Matt Cutts is the anti-christ, but we do biz with Oracle who's marketing manager is prez of the Google council, so maybe they will take care of us out of the goodness of their monopolistic hearts... Yes, I hit my head earlier today... Sigh... You Vill Conform!!!!

Matt Cutts is the anti-christ, but we do biz with Oracle who’s marketing manager is prez of the Google council, so maybe they will take care of us out of the goodness of their monopolistic hearts…

Yes, I hit my head earlier today…

Sigh…

]]> By: fiLi http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-550 fiLi Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:26:21 +0000 http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/27/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/#comment-550 The only thing the toolbar pagerank is good for is paid advertising/links and showing SE strength. The pagerank drop in most of my sites didn't result in a drop in traffic... yet. I am personally overwhelmed by how Google is enforcing a change in how things are done in the web. I don’t think I’ve ever seen something quite like this before, apart from Microsoft doing the same in the OS area. I honestly can’t see how they'll be able to get away with something like this for long. Manual penalties? asking for reconsiderations? it's almost like mainland China. At least with Adsense it's a service that you don't have to have, they let you know what you’ve done and give you time to change that (3 days), but in this case - Google's search engine accounts for 75% of Internet search, it’s all speculation based on rumors running around and the result is general chaos. The whole way Google is doing this looks like bad news. This move might make sense, as those paid links do abuse the algorithm. BUT, the way this is done can not be a good thing for the web. Some people make a lot of money from paid links, and that would be a problem for a while, but I trust the people will find the way to go beyond that. The only thing the toolbar pagerank is good for is paid advertising/links and showing SE strength. The pagerank drop in most of my sites didn’t result in a drop in traffic… yet.

I am personally overwhelmed by how Google is enforcing a change in how things are done in the web. I don’t think I’ve ever seen something quite like this before, apart from Microsoft doing the same in the OS area. I honestly can’t see how they’ll be able to get away with something like this for long.

Manual penalties? asking for reconsiderations? it’s almost like mainland China. At least with Adsense it’s a service that you don’t have to have, they let you know what you’ve done and give you time to change that (3 days), but in this case - Google’s search engine accounts for 75% of Internet search, it’s all speculation based on rumors running around and the result is general chaos.

The whole way Google is doing this looks like bad news. This move might make sense, as those paid links do abuse the algorithm. BUT, the way this is done can not be a good thing for the web.

Some people make a lot of money from paid links, and that would be a problem for a while, but I trust the people will find the way to go beyond that.

]]> By: Rick http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-532 Rick Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:23:29 +0000 http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/27/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/#comment-532 I think it's best to build your site as honestly as possibly, because if you try to cheat for a better pagerank today, google may figure out a way to catch you later down the road. Too bad that sites like Problogger were hit. Maybe it was their writing projects that killed their PR? (those pages could easily get mistaken for link farms) Hopefully they are the exception to a rule that works in 99% of other cases. Who knows? Maybe this new scheme does work better. There are supposedly less link-farm sites showing up in search results these days, and that's a good thing. I think it’s best to build your site as honestly as possibly, because if you try to cheat for a better pagerank today, google may figure out a way to catch you later down the road.

Too bad that sites like Problogger were hit. Maybe it was their writing projects that killed their PR? (those pages could easily get mistaken for link farms)

Hopefully they are the exception to a rule that works in 99% of other cases.

Who knows? Maybe this new scheme does work better. There are supposedly less link-farm sites showing up in search results these days, and that’s a good thing.

]]> By: Alex http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-529 Alex Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:23:45 +0000 http://www.daobydesign.com/blog/2007/10/27/google-alexa-and-technorati-chomp-my-bit/#comment-529 Yes, lots of nerves bubbling around on the Internet about this. Far from blog specific too. For me, the problem of Pagerank boils down into two key points: 1. Pagerank attempts to model the authority of a site. But authority on what matters? Should an authority on Nuclear Physics comment on sexism and be treated with the same authority? Probably not. 2. Search results change over time. DalianDalian.com, the site I and others are working on yet never have much time to commit to, just got a PR4 which is consistent with where it should be in the search results compared to other sites relating to Dalian, despite it being far from finished. We've crept up slowely. Once a month search rankings from Dalian to spaghetti go very funky, which I guess is Google updating their internal stuff. Google does a big Pagerank update, it seems, once every 6 months or so, making their incremental changes public. The rank of a site in relation to keywords is even more important. Just keep writing decent stuff related to the stuff you know about and all will be well, me thinks. BTW: Sites getting knock-down in Google are not unusual. The 'duplicate content penalty' has been around for a good while. If Google picks the same content up on two sites and figures one had that content sooner, the other site gets obliterated in search rankings - not always but often enough to make it a not very good strategy, which seems to be the case in selling links to improve authority where there may be no actual authority deserved. Perhaps the little Search Engine Bots don't like what seems like fraud to them. Worse things happen in this world. Yes, lots of nerves bubbling around on the Internet about this. Far from blog specific too.

For me, the problem of Pagerank boils down into two key points:

1. Pagerank attempts to model the authority of a site. But authority on what matters? Should an authority on Nuclear Physics comment on sexism and be treated with the same authority? Probably not.

2. Search results change over time. DalianDalian.com, the site I and others are working on yet never have much time to commit to, just got a PR4 which is consistent with where it should be in the search results compared to other sites relating to Dalian, despite it being far from finished. We’ve crept up slowely. Once a month search rankings from Dalian to spaghetti go very funky, which I guess is Google updating their internal stuff. Google does a big Pagerank update, it seems, once every 6 months or so, making their incremental changes public.

The rank of a site in relation to keywords is even more important. Just keep writing decent stuff related to the stuff you know about and all will be well, me thinks.

BTW: Sites getting knock-down in Google are not unusual. The ‘duplicate content penalty’ has been around for a good while. If Google picks the same content up on two sites and figures one had that content sooner, the other site gets obliterated in search rankings - not always but often enough to make it a not very good strategy, which seems to be the case in selling links to improve authority where there may be no actual authority deserved. Perhaps the little Search Engine Bots don’t like what seems like fraud to them. Worse things happen in this world.

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